Posts by Sugar Shane

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Re: Quarterly Organizational Accomplishments Video Series

by pixel in

dear brothers:.

we are pleased to inform you that a new series of short videos will be produced to emphasize the acceleration of the worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.

(isa.

Sugar Shane

Good. Sooner the better.

BTW, I doubt they're going to show, in any amount of detail, where the donations are going.

I just happened across this from the Methodist website, and I'm sure other 'mainstream' denominations & secular non-profits have the same info readily available to the public: http://www.umcor.org/UMCOR/About-Us/Financials

I have yet to see anything REMOTELY like this from the Watchtower. I'd like to shove reports like the one above in the faces of some of the more arrogant elder types, and ask em,' "can you please show me the money?"

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Re: Quarterly Organizational Accomplishments Video Series

by pixel in

dear brothers:.

we are pleased to inform you that a new series of short videos will be produced to emphasize the acceleration of the worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.

(isa.

Sugar Shane

Will someone leak these videos soon?

I'm curious to see if they offer any specifics, such as a table or graph with expenditures per country, along with $xxxx on construction, $xxxx on publications, ect. To be truthful, they would need to show $xxxx going to the lawsuit defense fund--perhaps that would be classified as "other expenses." LoL.

I'm thinking it will be a glossed-over propaganda film, like the kinds we've seen throughout history, from nations on the losing end of a war. "The Reich shall be Victorious!"

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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

by OrphanCrow in

court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

Sugar Shane

That guarantee means immunity for the sinner when he confesses a crime to the church and immunity for the church for not reporting the crime.

Yes Fisherman, as long as ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE is assured. Why are you not able to comprehend this?

Supreme Court Justice Burger (former): “The clergy privilege is rooted in the imperative need for confidence and trust. The... privilege recognizes the human need to disclose to a spiritual counselor, in total and absolute confidence, what are believed to be flawed acts or thoughts and to receive consolations and guidance in return.”

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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

by OrphanCrow in

court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

Sugar Shane

But, Fisherman said that it's confidential if it's simply NOT reported to the secular authorities. I believe he researched this definition from the "pulled it out of my ass" law dictionary. Or, perhaps it's based on his extensive background in....umm...err. Nevermind. I guess I'm with Grundy (and just about everyone else) on this.

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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

by OrphanCrow in

court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

Sugar Shane

No it doesn't. It only applies to Delaware law.

For the time being, perhaps. But, thanks to legal precedent, this will likely apply to similar decisions in other states.

One cannot also rule out the effects of the ARC, and the ongoing UK Charities Commission, on future legal interpretation in the US and Canada. It's all Common Law.

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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

by OrphanCrow in

court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

Sugar Shane

Here's the media report on this. The comments at the end of the article are slowly popping up, with the last few defending, or trying to defend, the WTs position. Perhaps these are coming from the WT TROLLS someone mentioned in another thread, after all, the grammar, punctuation, and overall coherence is satisfactory (with a couple exceptions). It's only at 8 comments right now, but perhaps that will change now that I've posted this link:

http://delawarestatenews.net/news/judge-refuses-to-dismiss-lawsuit-against-jehovahs-witnesses/

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Kinda Sad Re: Cart "Witnessing"

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

slightly redacted for privacy of those involved.. so, this is "park witnessing" in oklahoma.. the parks in this community are basically walking trails and some tatty playground equipment.

most of the time, sparsely used, and today was a very blustery day.. notice the justifying comment- "quite a few" checking out the cart.

i am sure they were..... .

Sugar Shane

LoL...yeah, I think I see an evil face towards the bottom, near his ankle.

Off topic, but right now this minute, there's a CNN piece on the Waco stand-off with Branch Davidians. And now that the Warwick place looks more like a compound...just makes you wonder.

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Kinda Sad Re: Cart "Witnessing"

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

slightly redacted for privacy of those involved.. so, this is "park witnessing" in oklahoma.. the parks in this community are basically walking trails and some tatty playground equipment.

most of the time, sparsely used, and today was a very blustery day.. notice the justifying comment- "quite a few" checking out the cart.

i am sure they were..... .

Sugar Shane

That is pretty sad!!

Looks like central, or western Oklahoma. OKC and surrounding areas have plenty of parks with trails & stuff. Tulsa & eastern OK is actually kinda hilly, so I doubt the pic was taken there.

Regardless, it looks like a nice, sunny day to: help a neighbor mend a broken fence, feed a homeless vet, mentor some disadvantaged youth, ect.

I recall that after the OKC bombings, many churches in the area joined together with various aid agencies to offer shelter & healing. Same thing happened when the tornadoes leveled parts of town in recent years. There's always been an attitude there of "we're all in this together." It's an attitude shared by many, though I'm guessing it's probably not shared by many JWs. I say that as a non-JW, but that's the impression I get.

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Whatever happened to the Lopez case?

by StarTrekAngel in

was it settled?

is it still pending further appeal?

Sugar Shane

Was Lopez molested while in field service, or a similar activity? If so, was the congregation negligent in letting him be alone with a known pedophile? If so, then he wins the case hands down I'd think, based upon the precedent set by Conti.

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Elder Mentioning an "Apostate Problem"

by Simon Templar in

i bumped into a sister that i have known for at least 40 years or so.

we were catching up.

she and her husband have been in the truth for decades.

Sugar Shane

Just slightly off-topic, but what would the ELDubs do if, as a NON-JW, I were to partake of the grapejuice at their 'Memorial?'

They couldn't do a damn thing, could they? It's an open event, where the public is encouraged to attend, so I'm sure it happens from time-to-time.

What if I had family in? Would a wife or sibling who is JW get disciplined for letting such 'worldly' dip-sh!t partake?

My own interpretation would be that Jesus said, "do this in remeberance of me." He didn't single out anyone, as far as I can tell. Furthermore, in Matthew 26, Jesus says, "Do this, ALL of you," (not SOME of you).

Anyway, I figure there would be a hushed silence, followed by some whispering and clearing of throats. A bit like adults reacting to a toddler standing up and saying "aw, f*ck."

What say you?